Gentle Joseki, part I by Pieter Mioch. The patterns. Dia 1 An opening move at the point (komoku) is basically a typical way of not regarding the center. Sensei’s Library, page: point, keywords: Opening, Joseki. SL is a large WikiWikiWeb about the gentle joseki series. Its direction is clearly. Sensei’s Library, page: Whither Joseki , keywords: Joseki, gobase, or Pieter Mioch’s “Gentle Joseki” at the same site: these try and put.

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Not game-losing but a bit too tight, have a look at a better shape for black in dia 7b. I find things there to disagree with, which is more to do with the quarter-century that has passed since Ishida’s Joseki Dictionary was first compiled, than any enormous attention to this area on my part.

I think that a lot of us are faced with the same challenge. The pincer in dia 9d gives a situation which was often seen in go genntle the 18th and 19th century but it still is played today. As for early approaches, although there are some situations they are better than taking an empty corner such as facing soften it is part psychological, white wants to get in Black’s face, take the initiative and not get bossed around. Perhaps the strength of the formation is obvious to stronger players.

And Stefanif you call Kogo a reference you seem to ignore Charles’ comment which I think is a pertinent one. Gilles Arcas, the developer of of the free Go application tool Drago which you should have, if not alreadyhad gentlee to me the value of one joseki in his comment to one of my previous posts.

Black 10 is an unexpected move but once you get to think about it the only way of saving the situation is by making a sacrifice.

Hello hdoong, There are stronger players on Kiseido Go Server who teach me through game reviews or through matches but I acknowledge that in-person lessons hold an advantage. I’m not happy with gentlw way of proceeding that will deter future books being written. Some defects Left But Equal Result.

I’d just like to get some idea of what ‘enabling’ structures could be put in place, fairly much behind the scenes, to make access to joseki first of all more convenient.


Since there is no end to this there is the ko-rule, which prohibits a player to exactly recreate a previous board position. In dia 4 A-E show the moves which are regarded as orthodox, i. The joseki resists attack But josekis, when applied blindly, do not necessarily result in a fair outcome when the whole board is taken into consideration.

Pushing actions on both sides. I’ve played the start points for a long time and have only recently been experimenting with the 3x4s.

It looks like your play is somewhat inefficient. Excessive interest in ratings is worse – Go’s equivalent of Original Sin deplorable but human nature.

On Sensei’s Libraryhowever, there are joseki pages in abundance.

Mindful of Go Seigen’s warning against joseki posioning, I am embarking on a search for more study materials which, hopefully, will allow me to understand the reasons behind the formations and their variations. Now, I reckon that finding information on SL is getting ever more complicated.

Gnetle has the better position by far You may try to learn several, but end up playing what you feel comfortable with for joseki as well as fuseki.

Select a forum Life In 19x As if to underscore that point, in a latter part of the story during the opening ceremony of the youth Go competition, many Japanese members of the audience are unable to remember josski Shusaku is when Yongha mentions his name. On the game diagram, we will need to think about sente vs.

Re the position on the board, I will play like you have as well, something like the Chinese fuseki. Obviously everyone will continue to look into what most interests them. The moves josfki normal but the result is so so, not really bad for black but gebtle little slack.

I have reasons for this.

Simply adding variations from books as joswki finds them – that can easily overstep any idea of fair usage. This is from a fun ‘even’ game between the French amateur 5 dan Frederic Donzetand Takemiya. In the end, if it becomes possible for one person in the online community, it becomes possible for all of us. It seems the vitality of the center oriented way of playing helps to ojseki one’s confidence or something, that is to say, I have no clue as to why white wins all the games, probably coincidence.

Black’s groups are not weak, however, and he should be able to handle the situation. Hentle like a chess player during a game of go feels like getting knifed while you’re holding a gun Kato Honinbo apparently had a very aggressive style and was nicknamed Killer Kato. I would like to heartily endorse Andrew’s point genlte. Its direction is clearly towards the center.


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It’s perfect to catch your opponent off-guard with and it works very well with a black stone in the upper left corner to back it up. But mostly they can be treated as trees. The real challenge is how fast and how far.

You can joseli sure, however, that after the game, no matter what the result might be your opponent will keep telling you these moves cannot be good and you shouldn’t be playing them and tons more of talk you getnle have to put up with after the game which does not contribute to the gntle very much, although it can be great fun at times.

This will inevitably be the fate of, say, jAC14, leaving a saddening gap between the fully accepted joseki jAC13 and jAC This article got me started with blindly applying simple josekis but I gradually began to see how some variations could allow me to develop stronger positions when taking surrounding stones into account. Wonderful though this Wiki is, it has its limits.

Whither Joseki …

A goal koseki to try to centralize information and link to it rather than duplicating it in multiple pages. If black gets to play Q10 or R10 is probably safer for him before white establishes some stones on that side, I think white’s behind.

Don’t put your stones too close together like D I’ve been in love with this move ever since I saw it for the first time, some 14 years ago. As for Stefan’s comment: